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February 17, 2006
More on Terms of Address
Some afterthoughts, inspired by the comments on “Not Mere Manners”: It's true that all these things are conventional, and conventions change with time and place. What I am concerned with here is conventional signs of respect in address and the decline of any culture where they begin to disappear. There are a number of charming examples in the comments on variations of the theme.
One tries to observe on these matters. When I am in the South, I use the forms of address employed by polite Southerners--but with caution and only to a degree--for in some cases these might sound mocking or insincere in the mouth of someone with a northern accent. When in Europe, and still a novice in the language, one is as careful as he can be not to use the familiar forms of address where the natives would think it rude, it being better to err on the side of amusing them by addressing one's wife and children formally than to insult the aged professor with a du or tu.
And then there is the practice of addressing God familiarly, upon which a long conversation could be joined. In this there are some paradoxes involved, and I would suggest the custom of pious Jews of not pronouncing the Holy Name at all should be viewed not as overturned but perfected.
My family background is Quaker, and the Friends, of course, traditionally eschew all titles and honorific forms of address. There are two ways to engage this practically, I believe, one of which I believe to be Christian, the other not. The Christian thought is that the public honor due a person is contained in the simple address of his self, so to address him with his own name is to give him whatever honor or lack thereof that name rightly bears. It may be the mark of the highest dignity to be addressed as "Hiram Smith of the Bethel Meeting," (which would equal, semantically, "THE Hiram Smith of the Bethel Meeting") and by the same token the mark Cain to be named as "[The] Jehu Jones of Platteville." Whether this way of thinking was acknowledged among Quakers, I don’t know. I have seen it practiced among them, believe it to be an inevitability, and would regard its denial as disingenuous.
The unchristian idea is the purely egalitarian notion that all people have something of God in them, so are equal before him in such a way that no one is due any more or less respect than anyone else. As Christians we are bound to give honor to those to whom honor is due, which includes the honor due everyone as made in the image of God (it is why we should both execute murderers and treat them humanely; it is why we treat unborn children as whole people), and then also of the "office" he or she bears, beginning with “Father” and “Mother.” This is why, I suspect, the various leveling movements in the history of the church have attracted only minorities, and have been very susceptible to heresy. Refusal to recognize the hierarchies placed in the world by its Maker, after his own image, is a recipe for not only theological but cultural disaster.
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One should note that the Thee and Thou forms used in older prayer, and for all by the Quakers, are/were the second person singular - hence the equivalent of du and tu.
Posted by: Joseph G. Kelley | Feb 17, 2006 12:07:23 PM
A former Midwesterner, I am an extremely informal person; however, as I've gotten older I've changed my thinking on the issue of how we address people, especially after having seen my father treated with so little dignity in a hospital setting. As he lay dying young nurses and hospital helpers would file in and out of his room addressing him by his first name in a sugary-sweet fake tone of voice, commenting on the beauty of the day while he was in pain.
Then came the ultimate disrespect by a nurse who I had admired for her efficiency. During an episode when my dad's fever spiked dangerously high and he was sweating profusely, this nurse whisked all the bed covers off his body to replace them with clean ones. I was in the room sitting a few inches from my father, and was so thankful that my very old-fashioned and modest dad was not conscious. He would have been utterly humiliated to be naked in front of one of his children. The disrespect this nurse showed toward him seemed to strip him of more than his bed covers -- it stripped him of his humanity, reducing him to just an item to deal with.
My dad had always been a great favorite in the hospital because of his sense of humor and great spirit -- so I don't think they intentionally disrespected him. I think the culture of informality in the U.S. just contributed to some of them forgetting that he was a human being worth being treated with dignity.
Posted by: Startled Saint | Feb 23, 2006 12:20:17 PM
Respect for the person seems diminished in this era of figures, polls and databases. I've noticed the replacement of "who" with "that" when speaking or writing of persons - the carpenter that, the mechanic that, the person that. Maybe the habit is a sanity saver in an increasingly incomprehensible social order. Turn the other into an object by speaking of it rather than who. Reflexive dehumanization.
Posted by: Michael Jennings | Mar 28, 2006 11:23:27 AM
I've noticed the replacement of "who" with "that" when speaking or writing of persons - the carpenter that, the mechanic that, the person that.
Except that it's an old and established usage. Quoting from the American Heritage volume on English usage, "Some people say that you can only use who and not that to introduce a restrictive relative clause that identifies a person. But that has been used in this way for centuries. It is a quintessential English usage, going back to the Old English period, and has been used by our best writers. So it is entirely acceptable to write either the man that wanted to talk to you or the man who wanted to talk to you."
Posted by: Juli | Mar 28, 2006 1:00:37 PM








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