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March 21, 2007
Anne Lamott's Dizzying Confusion
Some of you may find of interest Anne Lamott's amazing grace from Salon.com. (She's interviewed by the editor in chief, no less.) I have read a few of her works, and enjoyed them, but find trying the way she mixes good stories about her life with statements that leave you scratching your head, like this one from the interview:
Everything in the culture says that if you're a person who really loves Mary or Jesus or one of the Hindu gods or whatever, that you're not supposed to have jealousy or existential waves of judgment.
I suppose some Christians, of the tv evangelist and "health and wealth gospel" types, say something like this, but it's rather far from the message you get in the average American church. (And for that matter, much in the culture says that if you're a person who really loves Mary or Jesus, you're a dolt, though if you love the Hindu gods, that's kind of cool.)
The average Christian, if he's at all serious about his Faith, knows that he struggles with sin and that he needs grace because he's jealous and judgmental and lots of other bad things, and he keeps doing the things he doesn't want to do, as one famous early Christian put it. Lamott wouldn't need to spend too much time around Christians to see this.
She may have a useful point to make about the way American Christians appropriate Grace and presume upon God — and maybe even about the secularized versions you see in the self-help movement and the therapeutic — but if she does she loses it in her hyperbolic statement, and this kind of thing (insight, if it is there, lost in hyperbole) is typical of her writing.
Judging from her writing, Lamott seems to be someone who has read and observed a lot, but not actually studied anything. She seems to be the kind of verbally gifted quick study who goes to print long before she should, and what she writes is so enjoyable and breezy and personal and sometimes insightful, offering so much with which some readers can identify, and the content so safely what I call "p.c. with modifications" (that is, essentially inoffensive to the liberal mind but with enough quirks and dissents to make it feel a little racy, ideologically), that a huge number of readers love her work, which keeps her writing.
She writes about religion like a literary critic who writes on War and Peace after reading only every fifth page, drawing as much upon his own experiences as the parts of the book he'd read. In both cases, you keep wanting to say, "But didn't you read . . .?" and "What about . . .?" and "I think you've read something of your own into the book" and "That's not really what he said" and "You've extrapolated too much" and "You need to distinguish . . ." and the like.
If I understand her rightly, she also thinks Hilary Clinton too pro-life. And her religion is sadly politicized. At the beginning of the interview, she declares that
We're in our seventh year of the most catastrophic and appalling administration we've ever had and any place of calm or surrender or spiritual equilibrium we can get to will be hard won. It's very frustrating.
Whatever one thinks of Bush and Company, that the current administration could make finding "any place of calm or surrender or spiritual equilibrium" so hard is really pretty . . . silly. What does she think Jesus means when he says "My kingdom is not of this world?" What does she think the reality of "the resurrection of the dead and the life to come" means for life in this world? Has she not heard of the two Cities? Is she not sure which City is truly her home?
Why does she not see in the deaths of the martyrs, who lived under infinitely worse governments than ours, even accepting her judgment of the current president, yet died in a state of calm and surrender and spiritual equilibrium, the answer to her own distress? Why does CNN news have a worse effect upon her spiritual life than hungry lions did upon St. Ignatius'?
As gifted as she is, I think Lamott would be a much better writer, meaning deeper and wiser, if she stopped to consider such questions. She could stand on the shoulders of giants, and share with her readers what she sees from there. I suspect she would also be a less popular writer, because the answers to such questions, seen from the giants' shoulders, lead you, eventually, to truths that are not p.c.
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You wrote: "She seems to be the kind of verbally gifted quick study who goes to print long before she should..."
This is a good observation. I think a lot of pop authors are like this (and bloggers too... especially when you read the comment sections! lol :-)
But it's a reflection of our times as well. Who's read War & Peace? Paradise Lost? The Bible (in its entirety)? I'm one for three here. And that's just because I went to seminary. Just kidding. But you get the idea. We're in a shallow culture and so shallow writing is appealing. Keep up the good work stretching our thinking. Lyn from Thought Renewal
Posted by: lyngperry | Mar 21, 2007 12:37:22 PM
Thanks for voicing my frustrations with her.
Travelling Mercies was a breath of fresh air. I've read a couple of her books since and some of her interviews/essays. No more. The fresh air has become stale, boxed in as it seems to be by her stubborn pc sensiblities.
Posted by: kate | Mar 21, 2007 2:30:04 PM
I'm surprised you find her to be any sort of theological "thinker" at all. She writes from the hip with little, if any, thought to consequences and spends far too much time seeking salvation in a either democratic candidate for president or another candlelight "Impeach Bush" vigil. Rife with potential, yet ultimately another shallow and superficial writer for her loyal following.
Posted by: greg | Mar 21, 2007 3:54:07 PM
Greg said: "yet ultimately another shallow and superficial writer for her loyal following"
Youch! Your comment could probably use a touch of grace. Anyway, I've only read one of her books (I plan to read more), but it certainly wasn't "shallow" and "superficial." More like funny, honest, thoughtful and maybe a tad neurotic.
It's interesting many are saying she's "politically correct." I would have thought most people would think her anything but that, since she is so honest about things. She says what many people would never say. That's one of the things I find interesting about her writing. For instance, how "PC" is helping a friend commit suicide?
Posted by: Josh S. | Mar 21, 2007 5:55:52 PM
Or, for that matter, slapping her child?
(Actually, my post could have done without the "touch of grace" comment. Sorry about that, Greg, if you took offense.)
Posted by: Josh S. | Mar 21, 2007 5:59:42 PM
Actually, I think helping a friend commit suicide is quite p.c. Alas. And slapping her son is the sort of thing for which a writer like her, already given the p.c. stamp of approval, will be forgiven, and indeed praised for her honesty, vulnerability, etc. But let a Touchstone editor or writer write the same article and the howling will start.
I think her honesty is genuine, as far as a reader can tell, but still problematic, in that it runs along certain lines that lead to places no one should go. She admits her failings in a quite winsome way, but her confessions, taken as a whole, work in favor of contemporary liberalism.
Posted by: David Mills | Mar 21, 2007 6:56:18 PM
I love Lamott's _Bird by Bird_ and recommend it to my writing students (with certain caveats). But I agree with David's assessment; she is one of those writers who "lays it all out" without thinking that much about what "it" is . . . Sad, really, because I think she is very talented, but after awhile the superficiality gets old and then so does the style.
Posted by: Beth | Mar 22, 2007 8:02:25 AM
I've not read Lamott, but she seems to be a darling of the 'Emergent Church' crowd, which is enough to put me off her.
Posted by: Rob Grano | Mar 22, 2007 8:24:49 AM
Mr. Grano, knowing that is enough to put me off the "Emergent Church" movement though I don't know much about it! :)
From what little I know, I would assume it's her "authenticity" that makes her popular with them? But I keep wondering why folk can't be traditionally orthodox/conservative (deliberate small "o") and also be "authentic"? It's only when you are criticizing orthodox beliefs and practices that you can be "authentic," I guess; sort of like fiction only being "real" when it has a depressing ending. Oh, the horror of noting that sometimes things end well, and ultimately *all* will end well. How "cheesy" can one get -- and my students will be quick to tell you that "cheesy" is the worst sin.
Posted by: Beth | Mar 22, 2007 8:33:40 AM
Ditto, Beth (re "Emergent Church").
Here's what I wrote on my blog about Lamott when that article about assisting with the suicide appeared:
"She's a sad case--an engaging writer when she isn't screaming at conservatives and especially pro-lifers, a self-professed Christian of eccentric stripe, but there seems to be something essential about the faith that she just somehow doesn't get. I say 'sad,' but after this story sinks in for a few minutes it's scary. To adapt Flannery O'Connor's famous appropriation of a safety slogan, the life she took may be her own. Say a prayer for her."
Love that "p.c. with mods" remark.
Posted by: Maclin Horton | Mar 22, 2007 10:53:10 AM
But I keep wondering why folk can't be traditionally orthodox/conservative (deliberate small "o") and also be "authentic"? It's only when you are criticizing orthodox beliefs and practices that you can be "authentic," I guess;
Excellent use of scare quotes! Rule #1 of Modern "Spirituality": Thou shalt loathe thyself!
Various corollaries follow. For example, if you're proud of where you come from, find some good in your moral and social formation, or attempt to find some nobility in your traditions, you are a narrow-minded bigot. To find approval in the modern zeitgeist, to prove your "authenticity", you must be a convert and repudiate your formation... the oftener the better.
Speaking as a convert myself, I think this is one great danger in conversion: Fawning and uncritical approval by the new-found Group, to whom you came in a manner now tacitly assumed to be "authentic". What they admire, of course, is not that you've had the good sense to join with the Group because they possessed a unique claim to Virtue or Truth (remember they all loathe themselves according to the First Rule), but merely a perceived boldness of your "journey", one fraught in these modern days with so few and paltry "risks", that it is far more likely to have been the result of existential ennui or desire for better therapy (or even better coffee), than the culmination of an honest search for Beauty, Virtue, or Truth.
Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus...
Posted by: Steve Nicoloso | Mar 22, 2007 10:54:32 AM
Beth, you're close to the mark with your comments about "authenticity" and the Emerging Church movement. I've read only two books of theirs, but it's enough to get an idea of what the whole thing's about, IMO. The two I read are 'Velvet Elvis' by Rob Bell and 'Blue Like Jazz' by Donald Miller.
Posted by: Rob Grano | Mar 22, 2007 3:40:46 PM
Thought you might be interested in an editorial by one of my friends. He talks about art and making political statements and such.
Posted by: Alex Vitus | Mar 22, 2007 3:52:17 PM
>For instance, how "PC" is helping a friend commit
>suicide?
It's very PC. It's "politically correct" - i.e., the "correct" political position to hold, according to our betters in Hollywood, the news media, the universities, and so forth.
"PC" doesn't (or at any rate didn't) mean "don't offend anybody; be nice to everybody." It'd perfectly OK to offend pro-lifers, Christians, etc.
Posted by: holmegm | Mar 24, 2007 8:35:52 AM
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Posted by: holmegm | Mar 24, 2007 8:38:56 AM
It seems like the term "p.c." is used as a weapon to silence people we don't like. It has become such a hateful word, generally used by bitter, judgmental, hateful people who proclaim themselves the voices of authority.
Although I agree that some of Lamott's writing is over the top and silly (I personally don't think there's a big difference between Democrats and Republicans these day and her reverence for the Democratic Party is embarrassing), she is a funny, self-effacing, and gifted writer. And I bet (and hope) she doesn't spend two seconds thinking about the likes of you. She actually does walk her talk--she is a good friend, a good neighbor, a concerned citizen, and a good parent (I challenge you all to say you never smacked your child in anger--it is ridiculous that she has been painted as a child abuser). Instead of casting stones, why don't you stop being pharisees and start being kind Christians. That might be too "p.c." I suppose.
Posted by: SAL | Nov 9, 2007 4:00:15 PM
Sal:
Nobody's saying they don't like Anne Lamott. Well, hardly anybody. The conversation is about what's problematic in her pop-theological claims. That's what's known as "academic criticism." Calling people pharisees is what's known as the "ad hominem attack." The "ad hominem attack" is a rhetorical fallacy; it's also a lot less nice, and a lot more "judgmental," than saying, as virtually every commenter here has done, that you find somebody an engaging and talented writer, but you aren't willing to go where her arguments lead.
I also like an awful lot in her writing, though I haven't read her in quite a while. While I've admired her work, I've also often felt, of her fiction and of her non-fiction alike, that among other things she could use a far more critical and stringent editor than she seems to have, who would push her out of some tics (how many times does the phrase "operating instructions" appear in her entire oeuvre, for example?) which make her prose look lazier than it ought to, for a writer of her obvious gifts.
And that's kind of how I feel about the underlying theology, too. When I think of her, what I always think is, "Of those to whom much is given, much will be required." Here's someone given a tremendous gift in terms of literary talent and drive; here's someone who has also been given her life back from the degradation of alcoholism and sexual sin. So given that, why for instance does she (and I'm going to forget which book this is) have a seven-year-old who responds to their car stalling out in traffic by putting his head out of the window and screaming, "Stop honking at us, you f***ing a**holes!" OK, that's honest reporting, but it's also kind of disturbing, maybe even more than admitting to having smacked the same kid. It's disturbing in the same way tossing off a phrase about Jesus drinking gin straight from the cat's dish is disturbing. The surface outrageousness gives everyone a little frisson, but -- well, ok, you get talent, and you get your whole self back from a living grave, and on the one hand you know Jesus gets the credit for this, but on the other hand, you really like being outrageous . . .
Actually, I think you might call this "lack of judgment." In any writer, this is a problem; in a religious writer, it's really a problem.
Posted by: Sally | Nov 9, 2007 4:38:02 PM
Re: your comments about Anne Lamott, all I can say is what a sad, pathetic group of phony ass 'christians'...you don't have the first clue about what she's saying...you all make me sick with your ignorant fucking views of who jesus was, and I think jesus weeps just knowing you are using his name to justify your ignorant ripe...I mean really what a bunch of stupid, hateful fucks you are!
Posted by: Michael | Feb 6, 2008 9:46:50 PM








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