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December 18, 2007
The Reasons for Pudder
Steven Hutchens' Avoiding Dysgraphsia and the entertaining discussion it began reminded me of a favorite passage from Sir Ernest Gowers' The Complete Plain Words, a very good book on writing by an English senior civil servant asked by the Department of the Treasury to write something about official English. (It's actually two books combined: Plain Words [1948] and The ABC of Plain Words [1951]).
Gowers is writing about "pudder" (meaning "gobbledygook" and taken by the writer Ivor Brown from Lear's "the god who keep this dreadful pudder o'er our heads") and noting that "It seems to be a morbid condition contracted in early manhood. Children show no signs of it." He gives an example from a ten-year-old's essay:
The bird that I am going to write about is the owl. The owl cannot see at all by day and at night is as blind as a bat.
I do not know much about the owl, so I will go on to the beast which I am going to choose. It is the cow. The cow is a mammal. It has six sides — right, left, an upper and below. At the back it has a tail on which hangs a brush. With this it sends the flies away so that they do not fall into the milk. The head is for the purpose of growing horns and so that the mouth can be somewhere. The horns are to butt with, and the mouth is to moo with. Under the cow hangs the milk. It is arranged for milking. When people milk, the milk comes and there is never an end to the supply. How the cow does it I have not yet realized, but it makes more and more. The cow has a fine sense of smell; one can smell it far away. This is the reason for the fresh air in the country.
The man cow is called an ox. It is not a mammal. The cow does not eat much, but what it eats it eats twice, so that it gets enough. When it is hungry it moos, and when it says nothing it is because its inside is all full up with grass.
The passage is funny by itself but I have another reason to type it out, besides entertaining you. Gowers notes that "The writer has something to say and said it as clearly as he could, and so has unconsciously achieved style." I think this is right and points to an idea no one in the comments on Steve's post seems to have said: people often write badly not because they don't know grammar or haven't read good writers, but because they don't know what they are talking about.
The ten-year-old has got most of his facts wrong, but we know that he has actually looked at a cow and tried his best to describe it, which makes spotting his mistakes easy. Most of, or at least a lot of, the kind of hopelessly bad writing we all bemoan seems to come from people who haven't actually seen the thing they're writing about.
Those of you who teach children can correct me, but in the case of children, the problem seems to me to be increased by the kind of assignments teachers give out. I mean the kind of creative, engaged, explorative, stimulating — I'm afraid I can't remember the jargon, but you'll all know what I'm talking about — assignment that often leaves children frozen with confusion. Five pages on the causes of the Depression, say, after the kids have read two chapters of a textbook and three handouts, and seen a documentary.
The teacher is just asking, nay begging, for pudder aka gobbledygook. What he (the teacher) generally wants is a regurgitation of the readings, with an answer along the accepted lines, and he will get that from the dullards who do the obvious, the brown-n . . . the apple polishers who do what's wanted, the conceited who do what's obvious and wanted but praise themselves for it, and the ambitious students who know how to play the game to win.
The rest, who naively think they're supposed to say something original, start writing and because they have no real idea what are the causes of the Depression, because they have never thought about historical causation and know almost nothing about the history, economics, politics, or anything else, will start babbling. They sit at their computers, faced with a blank white screen and the need to produce five intelligent pages on the causes of the Depression for Mr. Jones, who, like, knows everything and grades hard and is, like, sooooo demanding, and force themselves to write.
And then there are the students, often the brightest and most serious, who have thought about it just enough to know they don't know anything, and that the experts write very big books on the subject and fight like cats and dogs on the subject. They could write an honest paper, limited to what they know, meaning that they'll say that X says this and Y says that, but then the teacher is likely to grade them badly, with a concerned note explaining that they're supposed to engage the material and — again I've forgotten the jargon, but many of you will have heard it. These too may take refuge in bad writing just to get the A their knowledge and effort deserve.
There are other reasons for adults writing this way, but I wouldn't underestimate the extent to which adults in business and academia are given the same type of assignment, and have an even greater sense than the kids that they're supposed to say something original but can't. So they grope to speak of a subject they do not understand, with predictable results. They have been trained to do this, of course, in sixteen years of schooling, so writing pudder comes naturally.
But that's not the only problem. Since originality can get you in trouble, especially if you're wrong but often even if you're right (and sometimes being original and right can really put your career in the tank), it's best to look original but without saying anything that can be held against you. The possibility of writing confusingly appears to the poor guy as the perfect answer, even if he doesn't put it to himself quite that clearly.
I think that the demand that you say what you have no competence to say explains a lot of bad writing, in children and in adults. It is not the only cause, not by a long shot, but it is a big one.
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Amen. Brings back memories of undergraduate history courses in which I wondered if I were the only student to check out 25 library books in order to try to understand my 5-page paper topic.
If you know what you want to convey, and additionally if you know to whom you are writing, you're in a position to succeed in producing something intelligent and worthwhile. So much of academic writing (at all levels) is written *for the sake of writing something*--no wonder it tends to be mindless rubbish.
Posted by: hakmak | Dec 19, 2007 1:12:47 AM
My high school junior is taking
ap us history. I'll spare you the nonsense that is regarded as the
american narrative, at least they don't use Zinn's book. What I find the most appalling is the emphasis placed on analysis. They are constantly writing up essays on primary documents. The students have no context or insight on which to make any kind of cogent analysis and no time in which to investigate or grasp the complexity of the issues involved. I could understand very narrowly focused asignments of this type, but mostly what you end up with is pudder.
Posted by: Laura Peter | Dec 19, 2007 2:30:43 AM
What do you know... Colossians 3:23 is still right. And ignoring it is still a mistake. :-D Excellent post.
Posted by: NJI | Dec 19, 2007 3:26:31 AM
The biggest problem I've noticed as a high school English teacher is this: although a student knows what he wants to say, he does not have the patience to form it precisely. He does not care if his imprecision takes the form of incoherency, because "none of these teachers actually read my writing anyway."
Faced with a teacher that reads every word, such a student may find some dramatic changes occurring.
Posted by: Daniel Propson | Dec 19, 2007 6:35:16 AM
[I tried to post this along with my previous post, but Typepad considered it "Spam"].
My collegues often claim that most kids will never care about writing, but apparently this mythic majority never visits my class. My students care enough about their writing to put up with my own sometimes harsh criticism, enough to try to become better writers.
Perhaps the biggest problem (which I believe both Tony and Steve have alluded to) is the epidemic of self-esteem. These kids get good grades in English classes for TRYING, even if their output is alarmingly incoherent. An A or B grade based on effort can be far more damaging to the student, in the long run, than an F. Grading on effort is as widespread as it is nonsensical. Would you ever grade on effort in a math class?
Posted by: Daniel Propson | Dec 19, 2007 6:36:49 AM
So true, Mr. Propson. I am right now dealing with an advanced student (college junior in the writing minor in our department) who is furious because she earned a B after all her hard work. Yet here we don't grade on hard work; she is very, very good at writing academic papers, but the class is not academic writing. Yet instead of seeing that she has done remarkably well to reach above-average status (yes, a B here is still above average), she is angry because "hard work" didn't give her an A.
Sigh.
Posted by: Beth | Dec 19, 2007 6:43:33 AM
David,
You are absolutely right about that! People outside of academe have no idea just how much the system relies upon the grease of bad writing -- people writing what they themselves hardly understand, about a subject they don't know enough about, to people who will only pretend to have read what they say.
Reminds me of something I heard on the radio the other day -- typical school madness: the kids of some fourth grade or sixth grade class were to go to the library to do a report on global warming. Ah, yes. Miss Prism, the teacher, has taught them all they need to know about chemistry, physics, meteorology, geology, the history of climate change, and astrophysics. It's what I meant when I said that most of us would be appalled to discover how incoherent science texts have become. If the gold rusts ...
Posted by: Tony Esolen | Dec 19, 2007 9:22:22 AM
David,
I think this is a really important observation. Professionally, I now write tremendously detailed reports on extremely narrow topics. And I enjoy it because it's *doable* and (at this point in my career) I'm an expert on it. I hadn't ever questioned the wisdom of asking a child to write about an absolutely vast thing about which he has no idea, but now that you question it, it really does seem a terrible idea. And getting proficient at this sort of exercise cannot be a good thing.
Posted by: W.E.D. Godbold | Dec 19, 2007 10:42:05 AM
There is a reason why patience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit: we have little enough of it naturally. Don't overlook the obvious factor that today people are quite impatient: more so than in the past, I suspect. Everything we are exposed to--television, radio, computers, music, traffic--encourages frantic activity. Most folks, and in particular most children, have little patience for good writing. A poor effort will quite suffice. They think they work hard, when in fact they merely exhaust themselves by living frenetically. It's not the same thing as working hard, but patiently.
Posted by: Bill R | Dec 19, 2007 1:03:58 PM
Dear Mr. Propson,
If what you say is true (and I fear that it is), it is especially frightening because the writing I complained about was the writing I encountered in my work as a copy editor and production editor of college textbooks. These were always written by PhD professors in the field in which they taught. Can the state of academe really be as bad as that? It appears so.
Original thinking? Every sociology textbook I worked on was just a rehash of every other sociology textbook on the market with not an original thought to be found. The only difference between them was the order of the subjects of the chapters. Very depressing.
Posted by: mbh | Dec 19, 2007 6:43:26 PM
>>Every sociology textbook I worked on was just a rehash of every other sociology textbook on the market with not an original thought to be found.<<
I think the key word in that sentence is "sociology."
Posted by: Bobby Winters | Dec 19, 2007 7:36:43 PM
MBH, I think that Thomas Kuhn had a lot of insight into why those books are just rehash (as is the field of education, at least, in the mainstream).
I have never seen such a world-engulfing swarm of pointless neologisms than in education journal 'papers' and textbooks. For which, in fact, perfectly good Anglo-Saxon English words already existed. One does not, however much these 'luminaries' must think they do, show intelligence or accomplishment by combining Anglicized Latinate forms with Germanic word-compounding.
Posted by: labrialumn | Dec 20, 2007 12:42:09 AM
>>>Every sociology textbook I worked on was just a rehash of every other sociology textbook on the market with not an original thought to be found.<<<
I'm not so sure textbooks are the proper place for new, groundbreaking research. Rather, textbooks are supposed to provide an overview of the scholarly consensus or best practices within an academic discipline. Original research should be published as peer-reviewed original research.
If every sociology text looks like every other sociology text, it may be that not much progress has been made in sociology over the past several decades. But we are talking sociology, after all.
Posted by: Stuart Koehl | Dec 20, 2007 5:09:24 AM
Sociology has gone into a terrible decline. It used to be an actual field of study, back in the days of Emil Durkheim. Now it is simply a collection of politically correct attitudes. Sociology departments are, I believe, the most leftist in academia, aside from the "studies" (black, women's, etc.) and social work.
Posted by: Judy Warner | Dec 20, 2007 5:40:10 AM
The sociology department at an institution at which I used to instruct had a sizeable group that would get together for what they called "church" on Sunday mornings and watch movies featuring acts between members of the same sex. They thought this was a load of fun. The chair participated and approved of these sessions. I found out from a friend who was at that time affiliated with the department.
Posted by: W.E.D. Godbold | Dec 20, 2007 8:55:12 AM
"I think the key word in that sentence is 'sociology.'"
It's even worse with a pseudo-science like "communication theory." Total gobbledegook.
I remember taking an essay course in college in which, on the first day, the professor required us to write a persuasive essay in class. Most of us got D's to F's. :) It was a shock to my system. I was used to getting up at 5 a.m., pounding out a quickie essay for lit. classes, and getting a guaranteed A on it. Lit. crit. essays are particularly easy to improvise. Not so, persuasive essays. When you got an A from that guy, you knew you earned it.
Posted by: Susannah | Dec 20, 2007 2:13:20 PM
I was used to getting up at 5 a.m., pounding out a quickie essay for lit. classes, and getting a guaranteed A on it. Lit. crit. essays are particularly easy to improvise. Not so, persuasive essays.
My experience teaching the class for the MA students on writing and research is that the brightest students often got very good grades from very good colleges by being clever and verbally adept, but have no idea how to do sustained intellectual work. I think teachers were so relieved to have something well-written and at least a little interesting that they gave them As even though their work didn't really deserve it.
Revealingly, often the best students were former engineers who had had only a few courses in the humanities, but knew how to break down a problem and answer it step by step. They rarely came to the insights the humanities students could offer, but their work was, on the whole, better. They also followed instructions a lot better.
Posted by: David Mills | Dec 23, 2007 10:16:13 PM







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