Russell Moore: Do Not Join Hands with the Abortion Reductionists

Russell More (and Robert George, if you've been reading lately) are not keeping quiet on the "lost" pro-life cause. Russell really turns it up a notch. From a Trevin Wax interview:

Trevin Wax: Should evangelicals should join hands with pro-choice politicians committed to reducing the number of abortions? In other words, is there room for us to work toward reduction of abortions instead of just working toward elimination of abortion?

Russell Moore: I do not believe at all that pro-life Christians should join hands with pro-abortion politicians speaking of “reducing the number of abortions.” This is akin to civil rights activists joining hands with pro-lynching vigilantes in the early twentieth-century America to “reduce the number of lynchings” through better funding of segregated African-American school systems.

Comments

[Kamilla]

Russ Moore is one of my heroes!

Ya gotta love the way he refuses to pull his punches.

Kamilla

[Stuart Koehl]

His analogy is busted, though. If we were trying to reduce lynchings in the South using the tactics of abortion reductionists, we would work to improve the lot of white bigots to reduce their resentment of poor blacks, and also engage in anti-bigotry education to make them see the error of their ways.

[Nick]

Come on Stuart. First, the "reductionists" that he's referring too are those that argue that the cause is lost. Second, we've been far too accommodating as it is. If we _really_ believe that this is murder it is like trying to patiently explain to Nazi's why gassing Jews is a bad idea.

[Stuart Koehl]

Actually, we need to address the root causes of Nazi anti-semitism, which, of course, is due to the unfair terms of the Versailles Treaty, German feelings of emasculation, and, of course, the fact that Jews own the banks and newspapers.

[Christopher Hathaway]

I am utterly unconvinced that any of these politicians really care about reducing the number of abortions. Certainly Molech's favorite son Obama isn't really interested in that, otherwise he wouldn't be spending more money to pay for them.

Can't we just call them the evil liars that they are and have done with them?

[Nick]

That's too sweeping. There are "good" politicians. There are even pro-abort politicians that are misled instead of evil.

[Stuart Koehl]

"There are "good" politicians." = "Once bought, stays bought"

[Truth Unites... and Divides]

Nick: "There are "good" politicians. There are even pro-abort politicians that are misled instead of evil."

Nick, please name some of the "good" pro-abort politicians that you think are misled instead of evil.

[Chritopher Hathaway]

I suppose a politician can be "misled", which makes him a fool. But how can such foolishness not be a moral failing for a leader? They don't see because they don't want to see. Again, it comes down to the choice to do evil.

[bonobo]

Actually, we need to address the root causes of Nazi anti-semitism, which, of course, is due to the unfair terms of the Versailles Treaty, German feelings of emasculation, and, of course, the fact that Jews own the banks and newspapers.

I'd imagine you'd need to address the Kulturkampf and a very widespread practical atheism. This led directly to a pathological hypernationalism. There was enough vague antisemitism in Britain before WW2 to give the lie to the Versailles (though not the magnate) thesis. The pathology of nationalism was in direct proportion to the irreligion, which is to say, the swapping of Christianity for idolatries.

[bonobo]

I guess I should mention Luther, too.

[Wonders for Oyarsa]

"Can't we just call them the evil liars that they are and have done with them?"

Doesn't seem like a constructive attitude to me. Do you know any pro-abortion people? Or pro-life people who used to be pro-abortion? Jen over at Conversion Diary is a former atheist, and she often talks about how her whole mindset needed to change.

Anyway, we can "have done" with the evil liars just as soon as Jesus rescinds his marching orders for us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us.

[Christopher Hathaway]

Wonders,

I do not mean "have done with them" in the sense of no longer relating to them but in the sense of Jesus' command to shake the dust off our feet and Paul's command to not break bread with them. I mean that we should cease to buy into their lies about themselves, in the same sense that we should do with heretics and apostates who refuse to admit what they are but insist on calling themselves Christians and expecting us to treat them as such.

No good comes of coddling people's selfdeceptions. Jesus never did. If these prodeath pols make the basis for our relationship and dealings with them premised upon a lie we should tell them as much and see if they are willing to tolerate the truth.

And yes, I know pro-abortion people and former pro-abortion people, and I know people who call themseves prolife, or at least not comfortable with abortion, but who never make that a relevant issue in voting. They are like the one in James' epistle who tells the naked and hungry to be warm and filled.

[Leland Nelson]

Do you really think that working with a white bigot to improve his lot and to educate him in anti bigotry would make a significant impact in lynchings? Even if it did you would still see lynchings? Is that acceptable? Would it not be better to pass laws (and enforce them) to make it illegal to lynch black men. That might have some teeth.

[Stuart Koehl]

>>>Would it not be better to pass laws (and enforce them) to make it illegal to lynch black men. That might have some teeth.<<<

Irony is lost on some people. However, let's note that no laws were ever needed against lynching. Lynching is murder, and murder has always been illegal. The real issue was finding people who would enforce the law.